F1C game freezes

Motorhead · Post by **Motorhead** » 18 Jul 2005, 07:57

Hi everyone,

Im having a problem with F1C freeze. This freezing problem just started today, so what I did I install the new ATI driver and still the problem is not fixed. At one time my screen just turn black and I had to restart my pc, then I launched the game and just sat there waiting until the next big one will hit again, and the same problem happen again

Should I make a fresh clean Windows XP installation or should I buy a new video card? lol

meoPHOENIX · Post by **meoPHOENIX** » 18 Jul 2005, 09:03

good morning darling,

do a fresh install ... if I am right you just had problems with some virus so it will definitly be better for you hehe ... of course a better card would be cool for sure when r-factor is out lol

I hope to be back in the next 2 days.

... have fun!

meo

Bilbo · Post by **Bilbo** » 18 Jul 2005, 17:07

You may want to check your card/mobo/CPU temperatures just to make sure it's not just a fan that is giving up or maybe just a dusty heatsink...

Ruben Miranda · Post by **Ruben Miranda** » 18 Jul 2005, 17:25

Hello Motor
I aggrre with Bilbo and it was happening to me.
My Comp with Heating up and it would just freeze up and then reboot.
With the hot temp's we have been having here in So Cal.

Before spending monies clean your fans on your case and the heat sink fan. If you have space add a fan or two.

The good way to check this if you do not have a temp monitor is to try it early in the morning when your comp is cold and see if it works with out locking up. If it do's this will give you a good indecation that it is a heat problem.

And remember that with the new and bigger v/cards will create more heat and could make the problem worse. So if you get a better card make sure you also include a fan or 2.

Good luck
Hitman

Ferdi · Post by **Ferdi** » 19 Jul 2005, 00:42

I had the same problem 2 years ago and my CPU (AMD Athlon) was broken. New CPU and problem was fixed.

(PS> It took me 2 months to find my problem...

)

Steve · Post by **Steve** » 19 Jul 2005, 00:49

have you installed any new hardware lately? had any viruses?, i had the same problem a while back on my Athlon XP system, and i think it was related to incompatible memory, never did try diff memory though, just upgraded EVERYTHING, lol, I would try a fresh reformat and XP install and see if that helps. But first try what hitman suggested, clean out your case, and make sure all fans are clear of all dust, might just be a heat problem

Motorhead · Post by **Motorhead** » 19 Jul 2005, 07:33

Steve wrote:have you installed any new hardware lately? had any viruses?, i

the only hardware I installed was a cordless mouse and keyboard 2 weeks ago. The funny thing was I thougt I had a virus when I freak out my computer was running slowly, hehe these cordless mouse will freak you out if your trying to scroll while your keyboard is blocking the mouse sensor. No virus m8.

Yesterday Sunday very early morning I had a race, right after the race was over I open up task manager and started to End Process programs. The programs are realsched.exe, point32.exe, and type32.exe. But I didn't End Process Tree on these programs, so after I restarted my pc these programs were back in Task Manager. WHen I came back from Malibu beach late at night I wanted to watch the replay and that's where I noticed my game freezed. So I was like ah this no biggie because everyone get's these problems once in a while.....so I restarted my pc again and watch the replay for 5 minutes and then suddenly the dam screen turn black while the monitor had the green light on..........ok this time I was worried and pissed off.

Bilbo wrote:You may want to check your card/mobo/CPU temperatures just to make sure it's not just a fan that is giving up or maybe just a dusty heatsink...

Where and how can I check this?

Hitman wrote:Hello Motor

Before spending monies clean your fans on your case and the heat sink fan. If you have space add a fan or two.
Good luck
Hitman

Yeah the weather was hot down here on Sunday and decided to go to Mailbu beach to cool off and offcourse watching those girls hit the waves

.Today early morning the same problem happen. .......do you mean add one of those home fan's or buy one of those videocards that come with 2 fans?

Ruben Miranda · Post by **Ruben Miranda** » 19 Jul 2005, 07:53

Hello Motor
Well I am talking about case fans.
Most comps have atleast 2 fans attached to the case.
One would be up front and another would be at the back. the one up front sucks in the air (Hopefully cooler air) and the one at the back sucks the hot air out. But if the room temp is hotter then the air in the case then it is doing no good no matter what. Your comp will not cool down.
I myself have have 7 case fans 4 suck in cooler air 3 suck out the hotter air plue there is a fan on the power supply and the heat sink and on the V-card.

When you tried the comp again in the morning was the comp left on all night or do you shut it off at night. I ask becuase some people never shut theres down it runs 24/7

In most cases it do's not hurt anything is you have a screensaver and or you set it to go to sleep where it semi shuts down. But for me on real not days like we are having now it is a good idea to shut it down if you are not home and not useing it.

In any case with it locking up and the monitor screen going black it still sounds like to me it is a heat problem. and I would point the problem being that the V-Card is getting hot and that is where it is locking at.
Spicificly when you stated the the both times it happened you are watching a replay, and that puts a little more work on the V-card.

I do not think anything major has went yet since it is still turniong on and running.
Just have to find the bug

I hope this helps
Hitman

Steve · Post by **Steve** » 19 Jul 2005, 12:16

what video card, and motherboard do you have ? most newer cards have a temp monitor built in, as do most motherboards

carrera · Post by **carrera** » 19 Jul 2005, 14:56

Yo Motorhead,
The program you may not have is called speedfan.If you have sensors on your vidcard it will find them.
http://www.almico.com/sfdownload.php
Just click on the blue speedfan 4.2.4 letters and it will download.
I think it will tell you what is wrong.If your temps are creeping into the 50's you are definitely overheating.Make sure you have a good powers upply before installing more fans though.
carrera

Flow · Post by **Flow** » 19 Jul 2005, 16:06

One thing i want to say , Im not a computer wizz, but im personnaly having some problem with some replay, but only on repaly. When i try go forward and barkward to often, it go black for few sec then back to desktop. Humm, is it only on replay your having problem? For me i think its my memory...

Bilbo · Post by **Bilbo** » 19 Jul 2005, 17:21

Flow, F1C DOES have bugs. Not meaning to brag, but I KNOW my PC does not have temperature problems anywhere because 1) I check it often and 2) I do much more demanding things than F1C (like doing stress tests of both the CPU and GPU every few months or when changing components) and F1c still crashes once in a while when watching replays (seems to do it more if you change point of view or cars often).

Motorhead · Post by **Motorhead** » 19 Jul 2005, 19:43

carrera wrote:Yo Motorhead,
The program you may not have is called speedfan.If you have sensors on your vidcard it will find them.
http://www.almico.com/sfdownload.php
Just click on the blue speedfan 4.2.4 letters and it will download.
I think it will tell you what is wrong.If your temps are creeping into the 50's you are definitely overheating.Make sure you have a good powers upply before installing more fans though.
carrera

Thank you very guys for the help, I was just about to go and buy a new video card on monday. And to you Carrera thank you for sending me that link it got my problem fixed. Here's a pic of my temp.

Flow wrote: is it only on replay your having problem? For me i think its my memory...

No it's not only the replay, even when I do some testing offline. Thks Flow

Steve wrote:what video card, and motherboard do you have ? most newer cards have a temp monitor built in, as do most motherboards

I have a 9500 Radeon ATI 128 and P4X400 Dragon Lite motherboard. Thks Steve

Hitman wrote:Hello Motor

I myself have have 7 case fans 4 suck in cooler air 3 suck out the hotter air plue there is a fan on the power supply and the heat sink and on the V-card.

When you tried the comp again in the morning was the comp left on all night or do you shut it off at night.
I hope this helps
Hitman

Wow! that's alot of cases and suck cooler's you have their

. I think I have 2 fans with the pic Im about to show Carrera.

I never leaved my comp on when Im not using it. Thks Himtan

carrera · Post by **carrera** » 19 Jul 2005, 20:08

Yo motorhead,
Make sure you have speedfan when you have problems.It may be as simple as a heat problem with your cpu or a heat problem with your vid card.The 9500 shouldn't have any problems.If you do have the time though you can do what I did.I drilled 2 3 inch holes in the top of my case and put 2 system fans in it to suck the warm air up and out.It works great as you can see by my temperatures...
carrera

Steve · Post by **Steve** » 19 Jul 2005, 23:56

since we're posting pics, here's my speedfan, and CPU-Z

Motorhead · Post by **Motorhead** » 24 Jul 2005, 17:08

Hello everyone,

Im still having freezing problems

. Here's a pic the clock , the only thing is that I don't know which clock setting I have to choose. Im not sure but I think by filling out all that info on that pic, hopefully that will fixed my problem.

Flow · Post by **Flow** » 24 Jul 2005, 18:09

As for me, thanks Carrera for the fanspeed software. Now i need to understand what temp means.

My 1st is from 55-70 (litle flame icon, heating probably?)
2nd around 32 (ok)
3rd around 35 (ok)

My average temps of 1st was 70, i open my side of computer and now going from 55-70... i have a fan on my vid card FX5200 and a 300w power suply (brand new) that power suply have 3 fan on it (one taking heat in and one out in back and the 3rd geting air out on top but case have no slot to let it be usefull), and i have a second fan add on back of case. Im wondering how come it still heating like that... Pentium 4, 1.6 / 512mg ram. My game is not freezing like Motorhead, but i think its too hot in it.

Any can help, carrera? if you have spare time, it not a rush, but litle advise woud help me. BUT help motorhear before, im not having problem with any game.

Thanks

Flow · Post by **Flow** » 24 Jul 2005, 18:11

I try something, i have a airconditioner (cooler)just in window up my desk, i put the cooling off and use only the fan and i let my case open and put the computer on desk almost in front of it, just too see if temps will drop. Temps is now 1-30, 2-27, 3-30 instead of 1-70, 2-37, 3-39 but if i run F1C the 1st temp go back in the 1-60to70, is it normal that it get so high in game (i know graphic make heat go up, but what is the average heateing temps to keep it...? i dont know).

Bilbo · Post by **Bilbo** » 25 Jul 2005, 00:04

Flow, assuming your Temp1 is the CPU temperature, I find it a bit high but then, you have a P4...

You did not mention you had any INTAKE case fans. I would strongly recommend you install one (often there is a plastic "rack" on the front of the case, near the PC speaker, made to hold a fan). That fan must be installed so it sucks the cold outside air...

Also, your upper power-supply fan is possibly detrimental to your case temps as it probably keeps some hot air inside the case that could have been pushed out by the rear fan. I would try to shut down that fan, although your case temps don't look too bad.

With my AMDs (AthlonXP 1600+ & 2400+), I start worrying at 60C and get scared at 65C. At 70C with all possible case fans installed (at least 1 front intake + 1 rear exhaust), I would definitely change the CPU heatsink and/or fan for something better, making sure I used ArcticSilver (any model) as thermal paste instead of the cheapo white grease or grey/pink bubble-gum-like thermal pads. Of course, if you don't know how to do it, it's better to not do anything than to scr3w this operation as you CAN fry your CPU if it's not done properly, even if there's a temperature sensor inside the CPU that is supposed to prevent that!

Bilbo · Post by **Bilbo** » 25 Jul 2005, 00:08

BTW, the temperatures quoted in my previous post are temperatures under extreme CPU load, like running CPUBurn at high priority, for at least an hour. If your temps never stop climbing (or stabilize too high) in those conditions, then you definitely have (or will have) problems...

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