Interested in Joining.

rsnake53 · Post by **rsnake53** » 31 Mar 2006, 06:31

Hello everyone.

As the title says, I'm pretty interested in joining NAR. I'm really itching to get out of the NASCAR world and into the FIA F1 world.

Out of countless nights looking desperatly to join an F1 server, NAR is the only one that actually has people in it when I'm finally able to get on at night. After practicing a little in your server at Bahrain, I decided to try to get on more often. I fully realize now though that I was able to join that week because the tracks were named similarly.

There are three things that I'm worried about though.

1. I'm COMPLETELY new to the F1 series and have NO idea how to setup these types of cars. I'm really looking to practice for a little while and possibly run in the races I'm confident I can finish in. (I have experiance in letting faster drivers by

)

2. I'm already in a NASCAR league with no hopes of even making the chase for the championship because of missed practices. (too early for me) I'm allowed to joing other leagues as long as it doesn't interfere with the races, and I can either use my league tag, or my actual name. I'm willing to leave AOD if I misunderstand #3.

3.

- NO 56K (OR LESS) MODEMS ALLOWED.

I realize that NAR has been in the F1C sim before so I'm asking if that has been taken from a previous rule book, or if this is acurate for the rFactor portion of NAR.

Thanks for any input,

M. Winters

killahead · Post by **killahead** » 31 Mar 2006, 10:29

Hi!

I am one of the 4 people in charge of NAR, the other ones are: Bilbo and Flow for NA division and Klaaz for EURO division. I think I can answer your questions.

1: No problem, NAR drivers are friendly souls and will help you set up your car or share setups with you. If you want help with the driving Im sure people are glad to help if you ask.

2: In this forum there is a thread with the official rules for NAR this season. I suggest you read them. We race sundays at 20:00 CET and 8 EST depending where you live.

3: What kind of connection do you have? Do you actually have 56k modem

If you do I think (I am not sure) that it will be problems when we are 16-20 drivers on track at the same time.

rsnake53 · Post by **rsnake53** » 31 Mar 2006, 17:03

I have read the rules and understand them.

I am currently on a 56k connection, but have not had any problems racing. I have raced repeatedly with about 30 cars with no problem on NASCAR tracks and have delt with both slower and faster traffic with no problems. The one reason I'm not in a good points posission is because I've been taking risks with my settings late in the race. I blew my engine 11 laps before the finish of a race at Atlanta a few weeks ago because I closed up the grill a little and was pushing my engine a bit too hard for a few too many laps.

I have experianced the rF netcode to be even more stable allowing me to physicaly SLAM another persons bumper (in the SCE mod of course

) with absolutely no problem. If I bumped another driver in square in NR03, they'd get a little shaky, but no problems arise.

Bilbo · Post by **Bilbo** » 31 Mar 2006, 18:36

Have you experienced driving rF with the F1_Champions mod online in any kind of big field (>15 drivers)? This mod is known to be "harder" on the hardware than other mods...

Related to this question is what kind of PC do you have? MAYBE you can get away with your 56k modem if you have a good PC but there's NO WAY you'll be able to drive in a full-field race on a slow PC with a slow connection. Even a not-so-slow PC with a good connection does not always (or barely) work...

rsnake53 · Post by **rsnake53** » 01 Apr 2006, 07:27

As far as I know it doesn't really matter if the rules have been writen purely for the rF portion of NAR.

If it was not made specificaly for the rF portion, than I am willing to try, but I'm no fool. If I'm putting any one in danger, I will not hesitate to park it. If any one else tells me I should park, I'll get off track that much faster.

carrera · Post by **carrera** » 01 Apr 2006, 18:52

Sounds like a good driver or at least a respectable driver at the very least.
I went through a Nascar league as well 2 years ago and enjoyed it but it is just not as fast as formula1 unfortunately.The season is already underway and I agree that 56k would pose a problem in a real race with 15 to 20 drivers,however.You could join a NAR practise server as long as you have the public tracks and the f1c 1.05 mod.You can then gauge your speed against others and we would help you with setups as well.Some of us have been driving for years already here so don't expect to be up to speed right away.Whether you have a fast computer or not(I have a athlon 3700+ running on an SLI board with a 7800gt).The 56k modem would cause race problems for sure.That is a bummer,but for practise it would be ok.
carrera

rsnake53 · Post by **rsnake53** » 02 Apr 2006, 04:56

I have already ran some practice laps around Bahrain and was just over 2 seconds slower with a Q setup from Flow I believe. I've been trying to join for some laps around Sepang with you guys, but keep loading the wrong track because I don't have the same name on the track. I tried renaming all the files and every thing in the files to the right name, but it didn't work, just kept hanging at the end of the loading screen.

Graphicaly, I'm possitive I can run with all the cars even with the bog of the modem working. Connectively, I may have problems in the middle of a starting pack or comming back from a full course caution, but I can't say from experiance as NO ONE is on in F1C when I am except NAR. I've avoided problems by pitting in or starting from the pit before I got a more stable line from my ISP.

killahead · Post by **killahead** » 02 Apr 2006, 11:24

Where are you from rsnake53? I think that might be of interest also.

You are more than welcome to race with us if it actually will work racing with modem. Perhaps we need to do some kind of test first.

About the track, there is a thread here "Official NAR tracks"......the correct Malaysia should be there available for download. Delete any old version and also remove the HAT file (I dont know if you have to).....that should solve your problem.

rsnake53 · Post by **rsnake53** » 03 Apr 2006, 04:40

As far as I know, those aren't complete tracks, but only SCN and another type of file for the tracks. I have a track called "Sepang" I believe, and the track you guys were running was called "Malaysia" I think. I tried replacing those files and renaming everything that had to do with the track but it didn't work.

I still don't understand though if that rules was written after there have been tests or what even in rF, or if it was taken from the F1Challenge rules. I am not looking to break any rules or be exempt from any. It doesn't happen in real racing series' and it shouldn't happen in online racing series IMO.

Bilbo · Post by **Bilbo** » 03 Apr 2006, 05:06

Many of our tracks are our own conversions. Unfortunately for you, the guy doing the conversions prefers that his tracks not be made public and we respect that.

As for the "no modems" rule, yes, it's a leftover from F1Challenge where it was proven to cause problems. It was not re-evaluated for rFactor because none of our members or even prospects have modems anymore (well, until you knocked at the door) and we already have our hands full with many things other than modem users...

If you answer the question about where you are located (since you did not put it in your profile), the proper admins could MAYBE decide to contact you for a test of both your driving and your connection on a track that could be provided for this purpose or one that is already public (i.e. Japan).

I'm sure you will understand that we won't risk a single race of 15-20 drivers who trained many hours for that race, only to please your F1 desires, which you might decide to quit next week for all we know (it's not personal, we have seen it before). On the same note, IF it is proven that your modem conneciton has no side-effect on the race and that your driving fits with what we expect of our members, then you'd be welcome to join us. Just expect to have to convince us, and that starts by answering the questions we ask of you...

rsnake53 · Post by **rsnake53** » 03 Apr 2006, 05:44

Ah, sorry bout that. I'm next to a city called Lewisburg in central Pennsylvania.