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FFB

Posted: 04 Jun 2010, 18:24
by Peter Sojda
Someone use any FFB plugin for RFT 2009 ? I use default rfactor FFB without any plugins. I don't know it's good or not so maybe you can show your idea for great FFB in rfactor ? :D

I have Momo racing. It would be nice when someone show his controller.ini or other settings :)
In Windows I have:
-Overall effects strenght - 100%
-Spring effects strenght - 98%
-Damper effects strenght- 96%
-Enable centering - 0%

Sorry for my poor english ;p

Re: FFB

Posted: 04 Jun 2010, 18:49
by Coffeemachine
i have g25

everything set to 100%
center spring set to 0%

and FFB in game set to 20%

i want to be able to turn the wheel without the resistance, easier to catch all the snap oversteer if you can move the wheel fast :)

as for robz and the "you need to work out comments", i do believe f1 cars have power steering good enough and setupable enough to be really light and smooth :)

its on! :P

Re: FFB

Posted: 04 Jun 2010, 21:31
by Mr G
I use leo ffb plugin as it removes the dead zone problem on the g25 also find it much smoother feel.

-Overall effects strenght - 100%
-Spring effects strenght - 47%
-Damper effects strenght- 26%
-Enable centering - 100%

My in game ffb is set to - 56 as coffeemachine said less resistance when catching snaps :D


Leo FFB Plugin
http://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cf ... B%20plugin

Re: FFB

Posted: 05 Jun 2010, 04:22
by CarlMcDonald
After a lot of tests, using the G25 :

in the windows control panel :
rotation angle 278 degrees
overall strength (or sometin similar) 105 %
enable centering effect for games using force feed back but set it to 0%
and enable games to change settings.

In the game using both Leo and realfeel plugins (set ratio to 70 or 60% using ctrl+1 or 3 ingame) :
force feedback effects low
force feedback strength -47%

very important to set speed sensitivity rate to 0% then you will need to adjust steering ratio in your setup.

Re: FFB

Posted: 05 Jun 2010, 07:27
by Jools
Could you share your Leo ini settings please? I've just put the plugin into my plugins folder.

I don't have the G25 I have the Logitech Driving Force GT. So I'll just see how it goes.

Re: FFB

Posted: 05 Jun 2010, 09:36
by TheBear
I've been using this and I'm very happy with the results: http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php ... 840&page=1.
It feels 100 times better than the default FFB. I'm not sure whether it would work for other wheels as it has been specifically designed for the G25. The problem I had with Realfeel and Leo was that they seem difficult to configure correctly and I couldn't find any information on whether they work correctly with F1RFT09.

Re: FFB

Posted: 06 Jun 2010, 14:06
by Peter Sojda
Very interesting :) This one from TheBear is good, I try this on my MOMO and feel better than default :D

What is your time on Canada ? I have 1:18.9 with race fuel

Re: FFB

Posted: 06 Jun 2010, 18:09
by CarlMcDonald
see my settings but i will give what "TheBear" came up whit a try ... :lol:
there is the Leo.ini setting :

13.5 Front Wheel lock angle, degrees (max deflection to one side from straight on)
0.7092 Front wheel distance to centerline (half the front wheel track) in metres, from .pm file
1.5550 Front axle distance to body reference point (about half the wheel base) in metres, from .pm file
6.0 Relative strength of FFB effects...................was7
5.0 Aligning moment curve shape / feeling of tyre losing grip. Lower numbers are duller, range 1.0 .. 10 ..............was3
0.99 Negative aligning moment parameter for high slip angles, range 0.0 ... 1.0
15.0 Slip angle where aligning moment reverses direction - typically between 8 and 15 degrees
0.113 Caster (dimetionless)
0.056 Camber ratio (not degrees!)
3.0 Road bumps feeling on the wheel.................was2
10500.0 maximum FFB force for stationary and low speed effects
11.0 stiffness of stationary wheels......................was7.2
2.7 wheel rubber hardness (1..5)........................was1.7
7.0 how quickly static forces drop off when rolling..............was8


and the realfeel :

[General]
RealFeelIsOn=True
ConsoleEnabled=False
ConsoleRepeatDelay=0.100000
SpeechEnabled=True
KeyRepeatDelay=0.100000
SteerForceInputMax=10500.000000 //default 11500
MinSpeed=10.000000
LogEnabled=False
DefaultMaxForceAtSteeringRack=1300.000000
DefaultSteeringDamper=2500.000000
DefaultSmoothingLevel=1
[Season 2009]
MaxForceAtSteeringRack=1300.000000
SteeringDamper=2500.000000
FFBMixerRealFeelPercent=70.000000
SmoothingLevel=1