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Just read it in french, i will resume best : New rule limit the diffuser in back to a maximum of size. But 3 team find a way to use the chassis as a prolongation of that diffuser to make is MORE bigger than the rule, but seem that a faillure in rule could alows it. If their car are judge Ok to race at Australia checkpoint, RedBull will drop a protest against Toyota, Branw and Williams.

The FIA actually said they are surprised no other teams had copied the design of the Brawn GP diffuser.
They(FIA) knew there was a loophole just who was smart enough to find it I guess.

Hello
I Guess the Redbull team dropped the ball on this and now they are crying
Should had paid more attention to the rules

Hitman

Another negative side effect changing rules constantly,.. gosh i remember some ilegal floorplates some year ago,... mass dampers in the nose,... what more

If thats the trick to be fast then i realy hope BGP will kick everyone a.. and win the first GP.

Branw, ferrari, rules...

Dont those 3 words togheter remind you something ? lol Ferrari were good with that in past.

Flow wrote:Branw, ferrari, rules...

Dont those 3 words togheter remind you something ? lol Ferrari were good with that in past.

only thing remaining is a shumacher comback to the brawn team

Four teams have now launched a diffuser protest

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/n ... 4556.shtml


The AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX will start at 5pm Australian time.

Steve B wrote:Four teams have now launched a diffuser protest

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/n ... 4556.shtml


The AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX will start at 5pm Australian time.

So what time is that in EST? lol, will i have to wake up in the middle of the night to watch it????

Yup us too.......dam it all!!!!

Here in Toronto Canada it will air LIVE at 1:30am (Friday) Practice session, 2:00am for Qualify session (Saturday) and 1:30am (Sunday) for the Race.
These times are for SPEED CHANNEL.

Lucky one of the sports channels here (TSN) will air a replay of the race 8am Sunday morning.

Hello

Steve Wrote:

So what time is that in EST? lol, will i have to wake up in the middle of the night to watch it????

Not if you have a DVR (Digital video recorder)
I got mine last year becuase getting up at 4:00 am to watch my racing just got insane.
Besides I could not turn it up as the wife was sleeping
So now I record it and watch later and turn it up load baby.

Practice starts Friday Fri Mar 27 @ 1:30am ET if that helps this is on the speed channel so it might be diffrent for you
if you watch on another channel I believe the above time is live.

The are also sayiny that the Stewards give the ok on the Diffusers for Melbourne so the race is on.

Hitman

FIA rejected BMW protest against the car that use the chassis as a extention of the diffuser. FIA will meet on April 14th to discuss about that for a final decision.

Hello
Well I might be wrong here in the way I am thinking.
But I wish these guys would quit crying and get on with it.

Get the diffuser remade and get back to racing.

If BMW and the others would had thought of this and Brawn had not had this diffuser it would have been a whole different story.

and now they are crying about the extra length of the rear wing.

MHO Shut up and get to racing.

Hitman

Hitman wrote:Hello
Well I might be wrong here in the way I am thinking.
But I wish these guys would quit crying and get on with it.

Get the diffuser remade and get back to racing.

If BMW and the others would had thought of this and Brawn had not had this diffuser it would have been a whole different story.

and now they are crying about the extra length of the rear wing.

MHO Shut up and get to racing.

Hitman

It's not that easy. Ferrari are now forced to build a completely new car to fit the diffuser because the KERS would've gotten in the way. Spending 30 million € on building a new car just because a diffuser swap isn't exactly fun. I think in a way Ferrari can be happy now as if they're lucky they will get a better car this year with the diffuser change and still manage to catch up as it's early in the season. Let's see how fast they progress in Spain.

Hello
Dan Rasmusson Wrote:

It's not that easy. Ferrari are now forced to build a completely new car to fit the diffuser because the KERS would've gotten in the way. Spending 30 million € on building a new car just because a diffuser swap isn't exactly fun. I think in a way Ferrari can be happy now as if they're lucky they will get a better car this year with the diffuser change and still manage to catch up as it's early in the season. Let's see how fast they progress in Spain.

I understand what you are saying But
There has to be another problem other then just the diffuser (For Ferrari BMW and others) I say this because Vettle and Weber in Red Bull are doing very well with out the Diffuser. and this might be (And I am not sure) becuase they are using the longer rear wing side plates.
As for building a whole car I thought the diffuser was the the bottom plate/chassis of the car so they won't build a whole new car just the bottom chassis and all the other parts bolt on.
The kers (In Ferrari if up front of the driver so that should not hinder anything or much at all.

Besides Ferrari have money to spare
It will help the economy
Hitman

Its a bit more complicated then you think, its not like putting a new diffuser underneat it wil fix the problems for some teams. They need to rebuild the complete rear end with engine cover and side in order to let it to work.

Also the only reasons teams are protesting it is just to get it it to the court of appeal because they gonna need to decided on what happen. So when the FIA is gonna say that the diffusers are illegal those results can still be changed. If the teams didnt protested it couldnt be changed anymore. I know i find it pretty pathetic, there a few teams that did their homework and got out with a advantage due to the rule changes. If mclaren and ferrari would have had it nobody would have complained.

Anyway i dont see it happen that 3 teams are going to be exluded from the results of first 2 races so yes, i think that FIA will clear things up and allow it. Atleast thats what i hope, also its for sure that the other teams have enough space to improve during the year.

Ferrari in past had a floor that was moving and they were able to take advantage of a gap in rule. Renault with the damper in front wing, Ferrari with gas air in tire instead of normal air, and so... Now its Branw-Toyota and Williams that took advantage of rule. That is part of life when thing are always changing. We cant blame teams, we only can shit on FIA to change things eatch minutes they can. This open the way to mistake and frustration...

FIA may start to not be taken seriously if they continue to make so mutch bad decision. Like the one to start a GP at end of afternoon and putting driver in dagerous position facing the sun. Making more money from TV at the disavantage of drivers security... It is already not easy for us normal driver in traffic facing the sun at 50-100km/h, now imagine that at +300km/h ? And dont think to put your hand up to block the sun, your going at 300!!!

I don't know if this would affect making a NEW diffuser but how would they know if it will work properly if ALL on track and wind tunnel testing has been banned during the season.

Would a simulator work in this situation to get proper data??

can't they use a wind tunnel anymore? if so, wooow!

http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/videos/the-di ... lained_64/

Here is a vid with explanation on what the difference is between the diffusers.

Hello

Kaffe Wrote:

can't they use a wind tunnel anymore? if so, wooow!

I believe they can use but it has been limited to how much threw out the season.

Al least I think that is right.

It is a shame that if the diffusers are deemed Ileagal they will lose there points and standings.
I only say this because they where told by the Stewards that they where legal.

Hitman