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Na Div1 China Race result
Posted: 20 Nov 2005, 23:49
by Flow
Race result
50% of race was done
Qualifying result
- 1:34.855 Flow (1:34.8XX so i rounded to half .855)
- 1:34.967 Brad
- 1:35.180 Kaali
- 0:00.000 Aaron
Race result
- 0:46:15.590 Kaali
- + 0:05.525 Brad
- + 0:16.155 Flow
DNF Aaron (i think DNF just before middle race)
Posted: 21 Nov 2005, 04:29
by Flow
I was lucky that Brad didnt do his best perfect lap. I know he coud fly over my time. But one shot is one shot, and i got it. I felt like it was a perfect lap, feeling that i was taking my time and went to pole.
The race was so hot and exciting, even if we were 4. The way the race was going on, i think a 100% woudnt be bad at all. But usualy we lost more driver in the last part of race, so 50% was appropriate. Alot of lead change, i got cought by cold tire on 1-2 first lap, and had to watch too mutch in my mirror. We were doing so close driving all 4 of us, i think that Brad, Aaron Kaali and me, were feeling eatch other pressure of close driving, hih. We coundt keep up going on without mistake. Its another replay to save.
Alot of nice side by side driving between me and Brad, and even in few curve. Also i had little contact (just liking ass, lol), was so nice and gentle touch, that it was more like, hey im there, move your ass, lol.
From the 2nd part of race, Kaali and Brad started to get a good rythm, and i was trying too hard to keep up so little mistake costing me few .sec every time. Nice win Kalli, you won by +5 in front of Brad and +16 sec in of me, but you own them.
Cya next one
(im happy, cause i didnt practice that race, but last year, i think i made around almost 800 laps on that track, so it came back to me fast. wouf.... )

Posted: 21 Nov 2005, 05:26
by Flow
Hummm my replay setup was set to off, so i dont have the replay. Kaali or Brad, please is it possible to have it?
CYa
Posted: 21 Nov 2005, 05:55
by Kaali
Yes Flow.
Tried to rar and zip it but didnt help on size.

Posted: 21 Nov 2005, 05:56
by Flow
Thanks!

np, took less than 20 sec to donwload.
Posted: 21 Nov 2005, 06:31
by aawil
Once I got seperated from the pack it got boring and I decided not to bother finishing. It was pretty entertaining early on though. I was working pretty hard just to keep the thing on track. Since I never finished my setup and it wasn't working too great with race fuel.
Posted: 21 Nov 2005, 06:41
by Flow
As reference, maybe too late, but at last minute instead of my last year setup that didnt please me, i switch to my setup of Japan from last race. only minor adjustment (lower wing) and 7th gear higher, i did my pole with it, and add fuel then race. I also adjust my brake and rad for a 50% (lower) and i was in the beat till i did like you tried too mutch to follow and lost a little Brad and Kaali. I wish i coud practice more to be able to be on edge!
Posted: 21 Nov 2005, 07:14
by Bilbo
My China setup is also based on the Japan setup I normally use, with a few tweaks. I really like my Japan setup and will probably base my Turkey setup on it!

Posted: 21 Nov 2005, 16:55
by Ferry
You guys also driving another track??? not the same as in EURO?
Posted: 21 Nov 2005, 20:14
by Kaali
Thx for the nice words Flow. It was my pleasure to race with you as a wildcard.

I won and I know since Flow has already bagged the championship it's all for fun now but don't feel like taking the points since I was just a wildcard.
The race was only 50 % and that was too short in my opinion but given the circumstances it was maybe alright though.
aawil wrote:Once I got seperated from the pack it got boring and I decided not to bother finishing.
Come on. You should have finished the race Aaron! I think it was pretty lame just to give up like that. A hard crash resulting in losing wheels is a reasonable excuse to drop out but this ... ?
Ferry wrote:You guys also driving another track??? not the same as in EURO?
After I've watched the replay I wanna ask the same question to Flow and Brad. You two guys seem to drive different line compared to me! Especially Brad goes MUCH wider all over the track and drives faster compared to me. That goes to Flow too. So the question is; do I have a different track or are you guys deliberately drive too wide to be faster? There are rules that say "all 4 wheels on track", "don't cut" etc. It is real frustrating to watch them behind gain in on you and you think all kinds of things and stresses you 'cos I know I do my work correctly as possible.
Posted: 22 Nov 2005, 01:37
by brad
Kaali wrote:Especially Brad goes MUCH wider all over the track

im working on getting better at that, GOSH, quite riding me all the time damn!!! jk kaali, i tend to use all the track but i wasnot cutting at all. i wonder if it has to do with the connection between us, because it seemed like your were driving in the grass at some points during the italy race, and i knew you were not. so i wonder if its the lag. but the track im using is the one that came with nar, so i would assume we all have the same. if you were refering to the first sector, i take different lines through there than i think everybody, so maybe that was it also.
Posted: 22 Nov 2005, 01:39
by Bilbo
After watching about half of the replay, I sure hope that this is just a visual glitch caused by lag/high pings because that would otherwise NOT be a NAR race by any means, not even by liberal Euro standards...

Posted: 22 Nov 2005, 02:06
by Steve
i saw the same thing too < watched your replay > and seemed like all of you were driving on the grass, lol, so it HAD to be lag, cause with the 03 physics, that would mean certain death
Posted: 22 Nov 2005, 05:22
by Flow
The reason you dont see us on track is normal. To see the exact line of driving, you need to watch the personnal respective drivers replay. Its the only way, cause yes sometime i cut little by mistake, but not often and no advantage taken.
Il take a look at it and give you my opinion to see if your replay looks like the same feeling as i was driving.
Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 05:46
by Flow
K i finaly watch that replay, and yes i went few time off line, i was not enough use to the track and was pushing too mutch, but i finish last anyway, i woudnt take advantage of it, was more mistake. But the replay is showing me more off than it was. In one curve on braking, i know that if i brake on vibror, i will spun and in the replay, im always having 2 whell right on it, or just past it. So my line is almost as in replay, but maybe little off right or left from reality, maybe du to lag. Il try to compare another next replay to see if im realy right. Only original replay of the driver will tell you more the exactitude of what is realy was.
Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 17:21
by Kaali
Yeah I agree Flow. Thx for your respons. And the more I watch I notice more details. It MUST be lag 'cos if you went off track that much as in replay it would show vibrations on your car and wheels but no vibrations noticable so it must be game compensating for lag and can't do it right. That goes for Brad too.
I had to ask to be sure so no hard feelings I hope.
Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 19:51
by carrera
I guess it may be too obvious or maybe not.Kaali is from greenland...duh...so why is he racing in the NORTH AMERICAN Division.We split the divisions because of lag.Am I missing soemthing here????Should he not be racing in the Euro division????Things may be totally different in Rfactor. We can run people from different countries no problem.F1c is history for online leagues.No point in even trying to see a replay when lag will show you a totally different scenario..Bottom line...don't expect a no lag race when you have people from across the pond racing with you.We have had enough trouble with all north american racers.Sorry for sounding rude but for crying out loud...if people are driving through grass and walls and such...it can only be lag...period...now lets move to a better netcode shall we???I already have 31 tracks for rfactor and 14 mods...The game is not the concern...The netcode is if you want to run a league...oh and I agree with aaron...pretty boring to finish a race when you are tired of the game ....3 or 4 people racing just doesn't cut it anymore...now that i've vented...lets just get ready for next year.
carrera

Posted: 26 Nov 2005, 22:07
by Flow
Well Kaali was interested about NAR league. SInce Euro filed is full and NA was emptying while season was going on. he was invited to join NA. Hes a driver a NA DIV1 caliber, and Division 1 is now only 4 active driver instad of 10, and since hes more close to euro, but still in middle

, he did some race with us. He did 2 race and stop cause of lag, but only him was feeling the lag, not us. After 2 race he quit, and we understand. But i "Beg" him to join, since NA DIV1 race were starting to be boring with 3-4 drivers. Alot of fun and kiking ass was done even with 4, but its not like driving twice more driver. Hope you understand Carrera, you Cart, Erick, Motorhead, 2Fast is no more driving, and we all understand personnal circomstance. So an exceptionnal situation let us all agree to let kaali race with us. I dont want to look rude also, but we active driver still can have some fun till the end of actual season. So Kaali is more than welcome.
Also, we know that F1C is probably going to die and we will open it in few year as reminding the old tuff and fun days we had with all the netcode problem

Also, we cant move in middle season to another game, we dont even have a rf F1 mod out yet, so we finish season as is, and try to make the best fun close racing, and trust me, we had few of them on last part of season. Alot of past race are to remember as the most fun of season.
i hope i will have the chance of "kicking our ass" again in NAR (maybe rf) next year Carrera... We mist you and other on track. Cya

Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 00:03
by Kaali
I almost want to say that Carrera needs geography lessons but I won't

. Greenland; Max 1.5 hrs from Canada, 4.5 hrs away from Europe both trips with a Boing 767. Greenland part of North American continent. In internet language Greenland shares same first 6 digits with all North America, 194.177.xxx.xxx. So geographically I belong to NA.
But in these times it shouldn't matter where you are located.
For a info I almost enrolled with EURO NAR when they were about to race at Hungaroring but after I found out that I had to install some strange mods to level all cars with the 04 Ferrari (I used a Ferrari already so why should I level with my own car?

), and that mod would result in mismatches when I joined other std servers, I declined in the very last minute before the race began. Instead I joined NA which I have not regret in any way.
But as you all know I have satlink and when playing with you guys it's sad I have that link. No matter what ip address I ping outside Greenland I get same result: Too high ping. Nothing I can do about that. But I will try RF when NA season is over and I really hope that will be a bit better than F1 C. We'll found out when I test that with the aweome NAR community.

Posted: 27 Nov 2005, 01:56
by Steve
believe me Kaali, rfactor's net code is WAY better than F1C, no doubt about that m8