No Aids Racing

Hello
Dam I hope they got permisson and all that stuff.
If they are useing RH work the shit is going to hit the fan.

Why not use the F1c stock tracks why use someone elses work and take the credit.

Fuck I hate to loss RH work becuase of this stuff

Hitman

I will say this if they used there work with out permission I will not use.

ok, so where can i download it? LOL

Hitman wrote:Hello
Dam I hope they got permisson and all that stuff.
If they are useing RH work the shit is going to hit the fan.

Why not use the F1c stock tracks why use someone elses work and take the credit.

Fuck I hate to loss RH work becuase of this stuff

Hitman

I will say this if they used there work with out permission I will not use.

hitman an old dude like you should be able to be more patient



and about they do these tracks for rF.

in fact they did not the prog to convert the tracks ... they just use it ... and I talked with those dudes they just do it to do tests with f1 cars on f1 tracks!

there is nothing about they do official stuff ... in fact we would not be allowed to use any of the f1 mods that will be available soon because no one of them paid for the rights to do f1 stuff ... thats why it is unofficial and at last we all can be happy as long as they will be available.

... have fun!

meo

i should have RF tongiht ,,,already d/l imola track to try out lets hope its looks ok .
hitman they dont need a licence , its a mod has nothing to do with any game company or puplisher

Hello

Limp wrote:

hitman they dont need a licence

I am not talking about a licence.
We or I know that the RHo4 tracks where modafied to the perticular season by others in or around the RH community (Right or Wrong).

Now I am not sure what it takes to convert these tracks to run on RF.
But I still feel that if they are converting or modding someone elses work
with out the permision is wrong.

Rh and other modders who work there ass off to give us this great work for free. And I think they should be suported becuase they atleast deserve that much.

Now if you don't have a problem with useing stolen work then thats fine.
But I in good conjence can not surport that.

Hitman

I agree TOTALLY Hitman

do we know that they DON'T have permission? maybe the RH boys gave them the ok to do this

Hello Steve
Well I don't know if they do or don't.
I hope they do.
I looked around the forums to see if anything has been said about this but did not find anything.

I was thinking about asking but who am I to ask and cause problems.

In Any case I am having great races with F3 and this will hold me off untill RH or CTP get there mod out and I won't have to go agaist what I think.

Hitman

I read a little in the M4Driving forum, and the only reason this track was released was to test the physics on an actual F1 track, i downloaded and installed it, and it's not bad actually, not as good as Birmingham and LimeRock, but at least it's a REAL F1 track. I can't wait until some of these F1 tracks are made from scratch with the true graphic options available in rFactor, they will look amazing !!!

principally they have to get ask thats true.

but the licence is a big subject though.

every work someone does and got not the permission from the REAL-OWNER is an unofficial work. which means he wont get paid for it and he also will not have the right to sell it.

in most readme are standing that you though can use the work but you allways have to give this work or what you did out of it for free. for example our NAR mod. bilbo is using it and giving his work for free. don't know if you ever asked bilbo if he got permission to use it hehe I did not lol.

drago is just translating me the readme from this prog as much as I got told there are also rules about what tracks you are allowed to use and you are not allowed to use tracks from other games like they are in the shops to buy ... means official tracks!

every unofficial work that is done around a game can be forbitten from real-owners in fact we have really big luck that we still can use all the stuff that is done around f1C or every other racegame.

if you will remind this is the reason why isi did own race series and cars.

I am very deep and interested in this subject and allways checking out what dudes are doing in this and try to help them with information.

as long as unofficial work is a base of a work and also to download as unofficial and for free you as racer simply should be lucky you can use it for free.

I try to release that it stays mainly for you like this and you will not have to get in conflict with your conscience. but again I got stoped in my project because the situation in NAR EURO got all my attention. I think things are solved now and we can go on with our business as usual.

dudes I think that people do not have to spend time again on work they did ages ago and can look forward to the new projects they want to release so in fact old stuff is geting converted from the community from guys that want to learn about this stuff for be able to release stuff in the future is absolutly in the spirit of this game! and as long as there was no readme at the basework that it is not allowed to work with this stuff it is ok when guys do and no one should talk in this about stolen work! just to be sure those who work on stuff should take the short time to write a mail to those who did it 1st and ask for permission but I am pretty sure they will get it.

when I started f1c I was on a big tracksearch myself. there was a prog to get to convert stuff and a friend of mine did it and I often gave those tracks to download. everyone I asked allways said that would be ok.

so I really do not understand why it is a big problem for you now hitman.

I think that whats going on with SpeedWerX atm and Paul Nortness is much more hard for all than guys that learn to work with files. the community needs him and I am not sure if he will stay or not. http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php? ... ost2653216

we need those who have the know how others have to learn about!

... have fun!

meo

Meo, iv read that thread, what exactly happend, not who, but, what was the result of the hack, the EXE. ?????

not sure what result you mean chimpster but feel free to give your question to the right persons

http://www.sim-garage.co.uk/

... have fun!

meo

Hello Meo
I think you miss read my post or did not get my meaning.

First with Bilbo's and with much respect to Bilbo
He did not convert any of the cars nor did he convert any of the track nor did he rename any thing and call it his own. In fact he stated and left every ones name who did this work in tact.
In fact he did not convert (Say the RH cars) to run on a diffrent game. It was made for the same sim it was ment to be.

Although I see your point but there is a big diffrence.

And one thing I can tell you That emac and co do have the rights from EA and ISI to use and mod there sim.

And another thing you did not read or left out
It also states it the RH readme file (Something to the affect)
That this work can not be modfied or changed with out permission from the creator and will not be allowed or accepted if the creators name is not awared.

That being said (AS I said in a previos post)
And I do not know if they got permission or not. But
I wonder why if this is only for testing they chose a RHtrack they could have did the 2002 f1c track and no one would have said shit or thought it.

Could say more but I do not need to insult the guys who are making this track or useing someones else's work.
I do not know if they do or do not have permision to use this track.

Meo Wrote:

so I really do not understand why it is a big problem for you now hitman.

Well as I stated
With respect to those who have gave us these great mods.
I will not use riped off work that is just the way I feel if and I do mean if
they do not have permission from Emac & Co and they do not give credit where credit is do I will not use there work.
If you want to use it and you don't have a problem then go ahead I won't give you a hard time or anything.

I am talking about me and what I feel and think.

So that is why I have a problem.

Hitman

ok im unlocked and i gota say its allot easier to drive than me v8 in lfs , speed feeling is very nice. handles ok,,,,am sure i can find a server with 20 guys to beat , if anyone about hosting later let us no i'll join ya
btw imola track looks a tad poo lol

true limpy, but at least it's a real track, lol

yo hitman it's ok hehe

like you allrdy said:

Could say more but I do not need to

because what they do is not what I would do. I never converted any track myself. just got them and had a lot of fun there!

as long as stuff is out where it is possible with allways guys will change them and when they are once out they will be used by racer ... thats fact.

if the one or other of us agree's with it or not will also not stop anything or support it if someone might agree with it.

you know I have allrdy problems with using the cheat to unlock the cars ... in fact my key does not work any more when I wanted to install r-factor after format C: ... will write later to isi and hope I will get it soon so that limpy will not have to drive alone HAHAHA

and limpy if you search for us ... we still drive a championship in f1c

... have fun!

meo

Hello

Meo
You only have to go here http://csc.trymedia.com and give them your info and you will recieve a code with in a few minutes.

Limp
You need to get the F3 mod they are a little slower then the FormulaIS but they are fun and that is where you will find full servers.
And fun races.

Hitman

open a server with the oval track , and that normaly fills a server in lfs ,,,might work for rf, and its a laugh passing 20 guys or more .
hitman cant be doing with the f3 cars i no the mod good but cant be arsed lol am sure the normal tracks in rf will be fun to race on for now

Hello Limp

Open a oval track (Oh Hell no) You know I hate driving in cirles like a horse. If I wanted to do that I would race nascar


Cu buddy
Hitman